I am pretty sure I am the guy that walked in downstream of u and asked you how you did as u were leaving. Anyway I almost gave up and left after a few minutes then when I started casting very close to where you were standing and killed them for 10 minutes or so. I was casting directly upstream with a minnow and split shot and had little weed issues. I think they were there but the weads made it near impossible. Caught a bunch in a short period.