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Old 10-25-2013, 03:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
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The National Organization for Rivers (NOR) wanted to follow up (though it has been a while) with discussions about river access and usage such as this thread https://www.chicagolandfishing.com/fo...ding-regs.html
Thank you to those who referenced our old website in previous threads. We have a new website with better, simpler, and clearer information. We are excited to announce the new poster, “Public Rights on Rivers in the United States,” available for free downloading and distribution, in print and by e-mail. There is also a handout version. These resources discuss public rights to use and access rivers for fishing, kayaking, canoeing, rafting, duck hunting, and other nondestructive river recreation.

The posters and handouts do not repeat the usual claims of lawyers for riverfront landowners, to the effect that public rights on rivers would have to be decided by state courts or state legislatures. Instead, they cite numerous U.S. Supreme Court decisions and Acts of Congress to show that rivers that people typically use for raft, kayak, or canoe trips are navigable for Commerce Clause purposes under federal law. These rivers are subject to the federal navigational easement, including public rights to scout rapids from shore, portage around rapids, and fish from the gravel bars and banks along these rivers.

Of course, some riverfront landowners, their lawyers, and their supporters in local and state government will disagree with the message in the posters and handouts, but that’s the point: To give river users tools to use for dialog with local and state government agencies, in order to reconfirm public rights on rivers in places where they are doubted or denied.

The handouts are ready to print on letter size paper. The posters come in two different versions, one for legal size paper and the other for 11 x 17 paper. The 11 x 17 version can be printed out at office supply stores or photocopy centers.

The handouts and posters can also be e-mailed to the directors of kayak clubs, college outdoor programs, government agencies, and reporters for local newspapers and other media.

Read, download, and print the posters and sizes you'd like by going to this page http://www.nationalrivers.org/river-law-handouts.html

If you would like to read more about the announcement of these new posters and handouts, check our blog http://www.nationalrivers.org/new-posters.html

If you want more than just a brief synopsis about river rights, we have a book to help you understand the whole story. To learn more about the book, here's a link http://www.nationalrivers.org/why-yo...on-rivers.html

We look forward to serving this community by further explaining and researching public rights on rivers. If you'd like to contact us, email [email protected]. Thanks for supporting the cause for rivers to be "forever free."

-Team NOR
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Awesome. I've heard of your work before, but some on here may not. Why don't ya'll introduce yourselves (maybe start another thread?). You do good work.
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I fully support these folks!
Their stuff is what I have used in the past to "fight-city-hall" and win.

I have used it to convince Algonquin they were wrong to tickets waders for wading the Fox river after dark.

I used it to have St. Charles take down the No Trespassing sign along Rt. 25 by the bike path and the discharge.

I have also used it for river access in Elgin, and for ice fishing the river when told I couldn't by police officers.

Use their stuff and know your rights!
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Thanks CHIDJM, will do!
Ed, thanks for the support. Glad our materials have helped you!
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I know these rights are true and do believe in them........ but also remember if you decide its your right to walk into a person's yard that lives on a river (even for reasons listed) that homeowner/landowner might consider you a risk to his family or property. Perhaps he might shoot first and ask questions later. Always try to talk to the landowner/homeowner first to prevent this kind of stuff ........... I live on a river and I know what myself and my neighbors might do (more importantly I know what kind of guns they have) Always be nice and try to ask.
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Could have used these posters in Riverside on the des plaines the last half century. Those cops have harrassed all kinds of people portaging the dams, even boy scout troops had been cited there.
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I know these rights are true and do believe in them........ but also remember if you decide its your right to walk into a person's yard that lives on a river (even for reasons listed) that homeowner/landowner might consider you a risk to his family or property. Perhaps he might shoot first and ask questions later. Always try to talk to the landowner/homeowner first to prevent this kind of stuff ........... I live on a river and I know what myself and my neighbors might do (more importantly I know what kind of guns they have) Always be nice and try to ask.
Absolutely!
I have explained before that along with rights comes responsibility.
i.e. If someone is having a backyard get together, don't fish in their backyard and be loud etc., just because you have the right.
To me, most of the time there is no need to even be fishing from the bank in back of someones house.
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Still believe most of the 'splaining won't hold up in Illinois or Louisiana.



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It has for me on the Fox river, in Algonquin, when guys were getting ticketed/fined for wading after dark, in St. Charles when they had a no trespassing sign up by the discharge, and in Elgin when a cop told me I couldn't ice fish as well as in a conversation with a state trooper.

All of them changed their minds after being presented with facts about navigable rivers.
Creeky Knees knows about it too.

I should add that it's better to get permission or demonstrate to those in charge of the "land" beforehand rather than risk just getting arrested.
Proving your innocence afterward may cost you a few dollars.
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