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Old 05-13-2005, 08:16 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Default 42lb8oz Pike caught on Maggots in Scotland

Just heard from some Pike fishjing friends that 21 Y O Scottish angler Peter Malcolm
Peter was using 5 white maggots , and a piece of corn on a size 10 hook tied to 8LB line
It took 45mins to land.
Fish came from a Loch thats stockedw ith trout 3 times a week.
Hope to have a picture for everyone soon!
I have seen 2 20lbers in England, and lost a fish I knew to be over 20lbs 2 times in 1 day in a match when using 2lb line.
I had little 1% chance of landing it
But I might have if I had hooked it the way Peter did.
Hook was jammed between its front teeth, lower came now where enar the 8LB test line.
Been a good year Around Britian.
A 46LB 8oz fish was landed in Ireland 2nd biggest officily recored, and photographed.Best in England this year is JUST............ 41lbs4ozs.
WOW!
And the fish was returned to the Loch
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Old 05-13-2005, 12:42 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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I once hooked a muskie up on the Fox Chain on a 5.5 foot UL setup with 4 pound line, and an ice spoon/maggot/float (not bobber) while crappie/gill fishing. I didn't land it, but I, and my children, did see it. It was at least 30 inches. Once it got tired to being constantly pulled out from under the boat it took off and we parted company.

It's amazing what tiny morsels a large fish is willing to eat.
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Mick, what was the length on that fish? 50"+?
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people catch huge muskies on panfish gear all the time. 2 of the former state records from Shab and a recent 45# from Wisconsin were caught on crappie minnows.
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I'd say 80% of the pike I've got have been on crappie minnows. Never landed a muskie so can't go there. But did get a 26in. pike at Busse a couple years ago on a crappie minnow&1/32 jig and 4lb test fishing for crappie.Just lucky that it didn't get hooked by any of those razor sharp teeth.
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I will try to get its girth & lenght I aksed but it was not in UK press when I was told about the Monster.

Just saw a picture of it yesterday its a normal UK Pike.
REALLY FAT!
beautifully colored, hard top see it all as its sunk into the arms of the anglers.
Hope to speak to him soon as many of my friends will want to go trout & pike fishing on this remote Loch, on a small Island in Scotland!
It took Peter 45 mins to land on real 8lb test line ( most US 8lb test lines would be around 12lbs test )

A friend Mac PC agent & serious Bass & Muskie tourney angler Sam has tried my finesse methods for his panfishing for years.
It worked for him.
Sam remembered my reasons why small baits work most of the time.
And scaled down to a big minnow, from a Big Sucker & lures patterns.
He landed a big muskie right away from a spot that had been ahmmered by many anglers with big baits
Muskie fell also on much on lighter line, and small hook!

This is why so many are caught on minnows thru the Ice, and in Open water.

BUT........................5 maggots laying on the bottom
Its the biggest I can recall on maggots, and 1 of corn that was meant for trout.
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Old 05-14-2005, 01:27 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Mick,

You need to post a picture.

Do you think one of our western trout swim baits would work in that loch?

By the way, you need to avoid the "Carp nickname" thread! It will will make you mad.

Although since the Carp has been one of your favorite fish, you might want to go post a message in it's defense.
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Default Pike from the Shore, and MYTHS busting

Forgot to say the monster PIKE was........... caught from the BANK

responding to other recent posts to me......

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Here I go.......this will be quite long.........I'm Myth busting again
I must / will add a permanent post, that lays out most of the important facts, about my fishing life, and facts about fishing in Europe.

heres the most important one.......

EVERY FISH IS A GAMEFISH........... to me
And every beginner, or anyone who cares about fishing: water conservation.

Id much sooner be answering questions on fishing, its methods, tackle, and history.
Passing on what I have been taught, or learned.

When I'm fishing, or matchfishing I focus on what fish can be caught!
At that time, and place.
Every fish is a game fish.


Too many have been brain washed into thinking negative things about Carp, Catfish. and fishing in Europe.

For me any angler can fish for what ever they like, this includes Catfish, Carp, Buffalo, Panfish......... I think these anglers are equal in every way, to any Bass, or Musky, Salmon angler.

Its sadly very ignorant, and a total waste of of everyones time, to take pot shots at what other American's really enjoy fishing for!
Or say another fish is a trash fish.

Owning expensive boat does not make you a good Angler, or even a average one!

Many people cannot afford at boat , millions just prefer fishing from the bank for many positive reasons.
Heres a few reasons
1...The whole family, and friends can fish together, and importantly just for a few hours which is important in todays time pressured life.
.2 Most time actually fishing, so more time is spent with family.
3.. Its much less expensive..
4 You can learn, practice the Fishing skills close to home.

Many cannot afford own , or maintain a boat.
At least 20 million anglers fish from the shore in the USA!

NICKNAMES...........
Didn't know I had a carp nickname (s), dint think I would lose much sleep if I did several

I have posted many, many times Carp is not my favorite fish
Bronzebacks, Steelhead are at the top my favorite list.
Ask me what my favorite kind of fishing is????????
And its hands down matchfishing for many reasons
Its by far the most challenging branch of Fishing.
WHY?
Because its the most difficult.
For any, all fish, anywhere.
New places, and fish are even more challenging.

I'm linked to many ridiculous Myths from Europe
So.................I must destroy them.

Here i must destroy many myths about European fishing.
Carp Europe's favorite fish, roach is ( its a European shinner ) thats very hard to catch, and anglers do NOT EAT!
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Many of USA Top Musky anglers started catching little fish.....Gills & Perch
The Cats & Carp.
Then when they could afford a boat moved on to Bass, Pike, EYES, and Mighty Muskie.
The skills needed to be a good bank / match anglers are far more challenging to open minded anglers who learn about the challenges of matchfishing.
This is why its the biggest participant sport in the World.
It come in different forms in Asia, but it one on one fishing.
Equal to all who take part.
Most Bass & Crappie & Muskie & Salmon tournaments are dominated by anglers who have lots time, and lots of money that allows them to prefish extensively, and find where fish are, and the patterns.
Again.........All the above Fish tourneys are great for those who can afford it.
Team Matchfishing is 90% pure skill.
Individual events are won from best spot quite often.
This is great for a new comer to beat a Pro.

Club and Matchfishing is much , much cheaper to learn.
Or a real challenge for experienced anglers who like a new , and real ch allege.

Its great because you can do it alone, or with friends, even better with the whole family, or Club..
Together safely from the shore.
Most matches are just 4 hours long!
Families can be together, and new comers, or experienced anglers, and watch and learn.
And its.......................FREE to watch, and learn

Yes Matchfishing is / was dominated by a few full time Pro Teams in Europe. who have the time, and money to prefish.
Drawing for your spot, makes the sport fairer.

Matchfishing & Ice Fishing have International rules ( CIPS-FIPS used by 95% of the rest of the World ) rules.
Strict bait limits make the sport cheaper, and naturally fairer in 98% of the World & now USA.
Only England has no bait limits, and longer matches.
Sadly the In England sport has driven many anglers out for these reasons.
There are no longer big matches every weekend as it was 15 years ago.
Now the sport been driven to man made Carp lakes, for about 30 anglers.
While the sport is same, or growing in France. Italy, and Hungary.
Matchfsihing is PURE fishing skills, no boat costs, or boating skills needed ( which I have very little expertise )

So for me the skill is learning the Art of freshwater fishing for any fish.
( I'm still learning, all the time )

What ever any angler likes to fish for, equal to mine.
We are all just anglers.
And WE should be working together helping the sport grow.
Unlike some who are being arrogant bigots.
Some must like it?
Others are just brain washed

Its like Tiger Woods telling someone you must play golf on a Championship course to be a considered a real golfer.
OR Andre Agassi saying if you do not play Tennis at Wimbledon, you a nobody!
All golfers are golfers.
Every anglers, is just another angler..
A Carp ( AGAIN....not my favorite fish ) is equal to Muskie, Salmon angler..

Every fish is a game fish to a beginner, and me..
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