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Old 05-09-2005, 02:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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I just got into carp fishing and I've been catching quite a few common carps but am interested in grass carp. What kind of waters are they in and what bait should I use? Are they uncommon? Any info would help. Thanks
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I will tell you precisely where you can catch big, really big grass carp! Drive down to the Graue Mill, on York Road, in Hinsdale. Walk downstream for about a block. And when the stream takes a hairpin to the left, walk up and over the south bank. And there you will find a pond situated between two colonial style office buildings. I swear on one of my testicles, there are big grass carp in there, and there plenty to go around. I never deliberately fished for grass carp, but this a good place to check out. Check it out my friend.

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THESE ARE in fact grass carp. They are not common carp, and there are no common carp in this pond. Just grass carp and smallish sunfish. The spillway is high enough that fish from Salt Creek cannot enter the pond when the stream is high. So jump on Odgen and head on down to Hissdale.

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Thanks a lot for the spot, I appreciate it. Do you fish for them the same way as common carp? This would be a first for me(grass carp that is).
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I couldn't tell you how to catch 'em. I never targeted grass carp or fished for them. They are rather exotic looking. Their mouths are shaped and positioned differently than your common carp, and their bodies are shaped entirely differently; they are longer and slimmer by design. And their eyes are positioned in the middle of their head. They are almost scary looking. To tell the truth, I don't even know if grass carp (like bighead carp) are true carp at all. I could be wrong, but I think they are just generically labeled carp. Just like brookies are called trout and walleye pike.

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UB, I did a quick search on them and it looks like they eat all vegetation. I saw that some guys catch them on corn. Some sites said carp family and others said they were a part of the minnow family. Thanks again for your help. I'll let you know how I did when I go.
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You should be able to get some tips here http://www.carpanglersgroup.com/
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Thanks smitty for the link. I'm going to try UB's spot this week. Are they in most ponds and lakes? I've only seen commons jumping in the rivers and what not. Do they not jump as much?
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Grass carp are generally stocked in ponds for weed control. They are voracious eaters and they are sterile, so they can't overpopulate the pond like common carp would. They live for many years and, as mentioned, grow quite large. I forgot the ratio of how many grass carp are supposed to be stocked for the size of the pond, but it's pretty low - like 1 per acre. I'm not sure what you can use for bait or a lure with spinning gear. I have read about different flies that can be tied to target grass carp specifically - one represented floating organic plant matter - called the "Crud Fly" and another actually looked like grass clippings. The latter was used by a fishermen who would target the pond right after the mowers went by - the grass carp would come up by the shore and eat the clippings that fell into the water.
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smitty is correct on the grass carp in the ponds for weed control. We have 2 grass carp for our 18 acre pond. You actually need a permit to stock them because they can wipe out a pond and disturb the natural ecosystem if you put too many in depending on the size of the lake( i am not sure on the amounts?)i was told they do not reproduce so you do not need to worry about the pond becoming out of control. I was curious when this thread started how you would approach catching something that only eats vegetation. Very interesteing
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