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10-24-2005 08:21 AM
FishArt Tarponman - you are correct. Mental lapse with my duck calls. Correct verbage would be "short" and "long" reeds. Doesn't really matter anyway. Who cares how the engine runs - as long as we put gas in it and goes - eh???

You did touch upon a point that made me realize the main reason I like the "Shorty". Blowing it is actually very similar to blowing my duck calls. It seems to take a bit more air than most other goose calls I've played with. I've only tooted on a handful of goose calls, but they all seem to blow very different from a duck call. And most I HAD to use two hands. I like being able to go between both types of calls (duck and goose) without taxing my brain!
10-23-2005 02:10 PM
tarponman Fishart is right on a couple of his points but completely wrong on one very important one. First with enough practice anyone can get good enough to kill geese and most every call will work. Yes the polycarb calls are very good and sound good enough to call geese consistently with enough practice. Acylic and cocoboola has different pitches which will work better for different days birds ect. Not saying you need to have all 3.

Where he is completely wrong is that most all if not all goose call are single reed. Don't confuse different goose calls with diff duck calls. I don't know of any goose that are double reed. Flute calls like the long honker have a longer insert and sound differently then a short reed call. both are single reed calls. The flute stlye has a longer sound chamber, longer reed than the short reed it requires back pressure but not as much as "sean mann shorty" mentioned. A good flute call can make all the same sounds as a short reed but will sound different because of the pitch, volume and tone or the user. If one try's to switch from using a flute, which most people learned on, to a short reed the change can be difficult and require LOTS of practice more than the flute ever required. It will most likely require puuting the flute in the drawerer for a while until you master it.

It is true you can create a lot of different sounds out of a short reed call. But a a good flute caller can as well.
10-23-2005 09:28 AM
panfish Fishart is right on. Practice is the best bet for any call. I have killed my share of geese using the calls I have had. Thanks to the boys I didn't even have one left. They played the reeds right out of my old ones. This one is in my work truck now and I practice while driving during the day. Probably still no good at it but I already have more confidence in it than I had in my old ones and maybe it will pay off. Good hunting to all.
10-21-2005 08:23 PM
FishArt Most any quality call is capable of making all the sounds a Canada Goose makes with PRACTICE!!! When it comes to duck and goose call choices, they're a lot like a shotgun. You shoot it awhile but start missing a few birds so you decide to change to another shotgun to resolve the problem. Where just more PRACTICE would have most likely corrected the problem.

I do have to disagree with the Tmidenia's comments about the Long Honker goose call. The long honker was very popular about 10 years ago and everybody had one. It had great volume and was easy to learn the basics. But, every Canada Goose in North America has heard the Long Honker. I can tell when somebody is blowing one. It's initial semi-effectiveness has drastically worn off through the years. It is an easy to blow, double reed, entry level, "get their attention" type goose call. The Long Honker is incapable of making some of the subtler sounds that all of the aforementioned higher-end calls are capable of making.

I picked up the Sean Mann Shorty this year and like it a lot. I like the endless capabilities of a single reed call. Yes, they're much harder to learn to call, but their versatility is unmatched with the doubles (imho). I can easily switch volume, work close in grunts and clucks, soft purrs - all types of weird noises the Canadas make. And I can do it with one hand - which is a plus in my book. Although, I do use two hands to throw the sound in different directions.

Again, many of the aforementioned calls are mentioned because they are PROVEN producers. You usually see these higher-end calls in the hands of the experienced callers. Although I suppose these folks could call from a $2 dollar call reasonably well too! Also, many of the higher prices are for the more expensive materials. You don't need to have a call made out of Coccobbolla wood or whatever as it ain't gonna sound any better. Most of these calls are made to be handed down. The cheaper, polycarbonite calls work just as well.

Practice, practice, practice! Just when you think you're pretty good you'll hunt with somebody that REALLY knows how to blow a call. And then you will realize that it's now what you have in your hand that makes the difference. It's how much time you spend learning all those subtle notes (and when to use them)...
10-21-2005 04:02 PM
panfish Sorry for not chiming in here for awhile. I messed up my back and have been couch and floor ridden for a couple of days. The more I mess with that new Grounds call the more I like it. Money wise it seemed like it was a lot for a call but it really is like middle range when I got to looking and asking some of the other guys that I hunt with. Several of them use that straight meat and love it. I didn't want to spend quite that much. Have a friend that guides down south and he loves the Grounds calls. If I can sound half as good as he does with them I would be happy. As far as the pitch and volume I thought the same thing. It seems to be a softer sounding call and that is really what I need down here. Especially once the geese get spooky. Seems like a few soft calls and then be quiet works better that anything. Won't know for a couple of weeks how it works I guess.
10-20-2005 03:53 PM
tmiedona tim ground. BLAH BLah Blah.
i personnaly dont think his calls are worth what he charges.

I use the long honker goose call. MYself and about 6 of us that go hunting all use it. We call in geese like no tommorow with them. FOr 24.99 u get a easy blowing call that works great.
10-20-2005 03:28 PM
tarponman The winglock is a great call The have 3 or 4 styles

I own the acrylic long neck and the delrin short reed
I also have the whisperer in walnut which is an awesome very soft call for clucks and moans

The Delrin has been tough to master for me but a lot of people really like em. Seems to require more back pressure than the foiles
10-20-2005 03:00 PM
Buddy I use a Tim Grounds Pro- Super mag, and Foiles Straight meat. I have them tuned differently to use in a variety of situations. The Grounds is unbelievable for soft calling, whereas I have my Foiles tuned for higher pitched calling for migrators. The calls are expensive, but I do alot of goose hunting so it is worth it for me.

That being said I have a buddy that uses a call named a Wing Lock. The guy who makes them is in the Peoria area, and they are very nice calls for the money. It is a short reed call and runs around 30 bucks or so.
10-20-2005 12:52 PM
tarponman I use the Foiles strait meat honker which is an awesome call but a bit pricey. For the beginner go with his poly carb meat grinder whicc is a good call as well. grounds calls are great calls as well tho. I like the super Mag
10-19-2005 11:53 AM
Walleye-Bri Stick with the Tim Grounds goose calls. I got my first one about 5 years ago. Since then I have picked up about a half dozen others (various brands, I sort of collect them), but as usual when the flock is heading my way the Tim Grounds just sounds goosier and is always the one I reach for.
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