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Well this year I have not heard or seen that many big bucks killed druing shotgun season, yeah it was a bad weekend for the temps, but that usually does not matter. But I have heard this year of a buck shot near Pontiac, IL that scores around 249 B and C, and this giant buck that was shot in Jersey County IL!!

I am only guessing the score around 250, but just look at the bases! And the whole main beams, oak tree limbs!

 

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That is a massive rack. But I don't think there's enough scoreable points to get it up quite that high. A sideview would be nice to confirm things. But from the picture, I'm guessing he's somewhere in the 220 range...
 

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It is not the points that will add up, even though they are pretty good, but it is the mass, not to mention that the deer is pretty symetrical! So hopefully not that many deductions!
 

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Bronzeback, you're cracking me up!

Symetry doesn't matter with a Non-Typical. There are no deductions. If you scored that deer as a Typical, you'd have massive deductions that would pull that number down to well below 200.

Mass counts as well as points. It all counts/adds up. But you're going to get the higer numbers with more scorable points. This is why you don't see too many 8 pointers in B&C. There are some, but they're not that common.

Keep in mind that a 220 Non-Typical is a rare animal indeed. I'm not knocking the rack at all. I'm just saying that some people don't really judge deer racks (or weight for that matter) very well at all. Going by the picture (again, a side view would help confirm things) that deer isn't 250. Wisconsins biggest Non-Typ this year was (only) 226 I believe to sorta give you something to gauge off of. I'm sure there's a picture of it on the internet somewhere...
 

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Using the guy holding the rack as a reference, I did a quick guesstimate and figure that rack to score just a little over 200, maybe 210 on the outside. As far as a typical score it's just too hard to count with just that pic but I would have to guess that deer wouldn't make it into the 180 class. Probably low 170's, but again that's just a guess.
 

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I think that there will be fewer and fewer big bucks taken during shotgun season because of how many and how good the bowhunters are now. You figure bowhunters have 6-7 weeks before gun season to hunt the "monsters" before gun hunters get in the field. Plus, that time is when the deer are less pressured so the bucks aren't nocturnal and you have peak rut time usually before gun season. I read earlier this year that 1/3 of the deer killed in Illinois last year were bow kills. Now if I could just get a big one with my bow :D
 

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Tubes, you and I are on the same page. I was being generous with the 220. Heck, 245 and change I believe is the Illinois record for a hunter harvested N.T.

It will definitely make it in B&C as a NT with a minimum of 180. But I'll bet he's right on the borderline (170) or barely over if scored as a typical. Too many deductions.

Again folks, we're just guessing here. But I'll bet we're pretty close!
 
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